Bonjour,
Comme convenu j'ai développé l'idée, je vous remets les personnages pour référence.
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The guy position was after a picture of myself like we talked about but the background was not so I understand what you say. I tried to correct it, I think it's better but I don't know if it resolves the main problem, I can't really tell.
I love Alex Ross so I'll go back to my books but I never heard about forced perspective, I mean I understand the concept in photography but I don't know how to apply it here. Anyway here it is
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Thank you
Looking good Diego. Background perspective is very nice. Hope you have a lot of time outside the class because this is going to be a lot of work. So much work that I strongly suggest you think about a view that has less of that forced perspective. There is too much to talk about now so we'll talk about it in class.If there's one thing that stand out as a main problematic is the fact that your hero seems way smaller than the bad guy, he doesn't look like the tall man from your concept. This is due to the fact that everything in your scene is depicted in forced perspective except your hero... In the meantime if you can try to gather some references (like soccer player pose with foot on ball at low angle) or as we discussed simply do it yourself. If that's not possible we can do it in class. Also, take a full hour to look at the work of Alex Ross (comic book covers) and his forced perspectives.
ReplyDeleteOk I see what you did, but overall I see the same image. I wish I could see your reference so I could help more at this stage.
ReplyDeleteDoes the character have to take more space in the page ? Maybe less character perspective ? Or moving the background in another way ? I don't really know what to do because I don't think I really understand what's wrong, do you have an image or photo of the result (perspective wise) I need to obtain ? Thank you
DeleteOk let's go back to some basics. First, try to get clearly in the shot the bad guy's hands (tentacles and his weapon which I don't know what it does) That part of the cane and the tip of the weapon are not readable unless the viewer has your character model sheet in hand. You simply cannot guess what these are.
ReplyDeleteSecond, make 2-3 rough sketches of your scene with a camera view that is slightly pulled back from your subject, meaning you will reduce considerably the forced perspective and focus on assimilating the posing of your hero. Let's see what this will show us. We'll see afterwards how we can try to come closer to your forced perspective view. Like I said, this is a tough one and the more I look at it the more I realize how much work it is even for me.
Thank you for your answer, I tried something to simplify the picture (Edit 2). By adding a wall on the back The image will focus more on the characters and I just can't figure out the forced perspective. I tried to work on it for the characters and the bg and I also added the 2 bad guy's arms. I hope it's better and that the image didn't lose something with the simplification. I'm not so sure about what could I do more with my current set of skills... Thanks
DeleteI also tried to redraw the head to be more in the axe of the bad guy (Edit 3). Don't know if it's better or not.
DeleteThe new head looks nice. But right now keep it aside and stay with the rough sketch. New background is interesting but I think it would be preferable to have an open space behind. On edit 2, start by lowering the ground (horizon line) so you can make longer legs for the hero. Zoom out a bit the overall image so you can have room to show that bad guy's weapon (which still puzzles me...) Also, is he actually kicking his head or hold him on the ground with his foot? Think about this and act it. See at what point you would have your right leg in the position you show in your image.
ReplyDeleteOk so I redraw the bg from scratch, zoom out, reposition the bad guy arm, verified with several ref pictures the position of the leg and it seems to be in in the right place... Maybe my drawing skills aren't enought to not make it look weird. Anyway is it going in the right direction or do I give up on this image ? Thanks
DeleteWe'll talk about it tomorrow. In the meantime, try to make 2-3 rough sketches of that same moment like if it was shot from the distance. The point of view we have right now is like if it was shot from very low and very close to the characters. Try to pull back so you don't have to deal that much with the forced perspective.
ReplyDeleteForget about the background for now. I want you to be able to create the scene you envisioned maybe in a less explosive way. Still, there will be a lot to do and I'm sure were going make something out of it. Bring the references you spoke about.